Comments for Direct From Carlson http://directfromcarlson.com Carlson Connection - The online community for Carlson users Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:05:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ Comment on Carlson 2010 Sneak Peek by The Kansas City Carlson User Group | That CAD Girl http://directfromcarlson.com/2009/06/18/carlson-2010-sneak-peek/#comment-8 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:05:48 +0000 http://directfromcarlson.com/?p=209#comment-8 [...] I was given the opportunity to demonstrate some of the new features that will be released with Carlson 2010 with particular focus on surveying and the communication of information between the field and the [...]

]]> Comment on BIM vs. “CIM” – Is it a Noun or Verb? by BIM for Civil… Not | That CAD Girl http://directfromcarlson.com/2009/04/07/bim-vs-cim-is-it-a-noun-or-verb/#comment-7 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:55:02 +0000 http://carlsonswblog.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-7 [...] have asked a lot more questions, read a lot more on the internet and had a lot of discussions with Ladd and Felicia and also read the post by one of our commenters. I think I’ve developed a more [...]

]]> Comment on BIM vs. “CIM” – Is it a Noun or Verb? by BIM for Civil… Not « Carlson Connection http://directfromcarlson.com/2009/04/07/bim-vs-cim-is-it-a-noun-or-verb/#comment-6 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:59:13 +0000 http://carlsonswblog.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-6 [...] have asked a lot more questions, read a lot more on the internet and had a lot of discussions with Ladd and Felicia and also read the post by one of our commenters. I think I’ve developed a more [...]

]]> Comment on BIM vs. “CIM” – Is it a Noun or Verb? by Jennifer DiBona http://directfromcarlson.com/2009/04/07/bim-vs-cim-is-it-a-noun-or-verb/#comment-5 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:00:55 +0000 http://carlsonswblog.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-5 I agree that civil is behind the 3d curve compared to architects and it’s also fair to say that contractors are the ones pushing civil design into that third-dimension. But, in defense of the industry, a building is a finite area. Civil projects can be dependent on watersheds covering hundreds of square miles.
I can’t say that I was familiar with the BIM Capability Maturity Model (CMM) or the Industry Foundation Classes (IFC) prior to your post.

You state,

Autodesk can quite rightly tout Civil 3D as BIM software because any model generated in C3D meets the “Minimum BIM” criteria on the BIM Capability Maturity Model. Autodesk is now heavily engaged in making huge strides towards compatibility and the 2009 and 2010 releases of C3D support Industry Foundation Classes.

I’m not able to find any more information on that. I have since Google’d both and can’t find any links between Civil 3D 2009 or 2010 and CMM or IFC. Actually, the only link I can find between IFC and Civil 3D is to an Autodesk UK press release, for Revit, from 2006 that has apparently been put on the wrong page. It’s a Civil 3D header, but “Civil 3D” doesn’t exist in the body at all. http://www.autodesk.co.uk/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=452932&id=7123643&linkID=12218968 All other IFC references are 2003 or earlier.

As far as the CMM or IFC in general, I also can’t tell that either is an authoritative or independent measure of whether a software meets requirements of a BIM standard as you seem to indicate.

It appears that the CMM originated at the Software Engineering Institute of Carnegie Mellon University. They state that CMM was retired (in 2002-2003?) and lists CMMI as the replacement http://www.sei.cmu.edu/cmm/. According to their site, CMMI is a “process improvement approach”. There are apparently some strong ties with BIM and CMMI, but still can’t seem to find anything relating to civil design generally, or Civil 3D specifically.

So that I can do better research, would you mind providing some references (links) regarding Civil 3D 2009 and 2010 meeting the CMM and/or IFC standards? The more informed we all are, the better.

]]> Comment on BIM vs. “CIM” – Is it a Noun or Verb? by missusflux http://directfromcarlson.com/2009/04/07/bim-vs-cim-is-it-a-noun-or-verb/#comment-4 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:45:50 +0000 http://carlsonswblog.wordpress.com/?p=117#comment-4 I think you’re both missing the point. I don’t care if you call it BIM or VDC, either way the civil design side has been left eating the Architects and Contractors’ dust in embracing technology to enhance efficiency and improve the quality of the final product. It’s embarassing that civil engineers are so far behind the curve, and the gap keeps growing. Arguing that BIM doesn’t belong in Civil Engineering is like the pre-Copernican astronomers making up convoluted explanations for retrograde motion.

Autodesk can quite rightly tout Civil 3D as BIM software because any model generated in C3D meets the “Minimum BIM” criteria on the BIM Capability Maturity Model. Autodesk is now heavily engaged in making huge strides towards compatibility and the 2009 and 2010 releases of C3D support Industry Foundation Classes. It’s a wonder that Bentley isn’t cheering their latest civil product as a BIM tool as loudly as Autodesk is, but maybe they’re complacent in their market share.

]]> Comment on Brent Jones of ESRI discusses ‘Why GIS Needs Surveyors’ by Carlson + ESRI = Wow! « Carlson Connection http://directfromcarlson.com/2009/04/08/brent-jones-of-esri-discusses-why-gis-needs-surveyors/#comment-3 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:09:36 +0000 http://carlsonswblog.wordpress.com/?p=151#comment-3 [...] So, how cool is this?  [...]

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